Fourth Trial Hearing

Occasionally, mainly in the afternoon and sometimes at night, when Liu Tsai-hsuan went out or moved between locations.

She described episodes of head-banging, moaning, profanity, tooth grinding and picking at the hands, while repeatedly saying she could not recall dates or sequence.

She recalled bruising, a small mark between the eyebrows, scabs on a hand and swelling at the back of the head; she said falls were offered as explanations.

She said she did, orally, and was told a report had been made.

She had seen the child naked and standing, but said she did not know whether this was punishment.

She said she did not ask.

She said it was raised in person, at meals or when she remembered.

She recalled Liu Tsai-hsuan saying an oral injury caused bleeding or vomiting and the bathroom was easier to clean.

She said she ran from the kitchen, saw the child’s hands and feet tied, righted the basin, untied and carried the child to the living room.

She said she did not ask and did not think much of it at the time.

She would photograph it and notify the social worker by LINE, explaining the injury and cause.

She said no.

She acknowledged inappropriate language and said she had seen Liu Tsai-hsuan pat or strike a body area, while her memory of the messages was limited.

She described moving from the sleeping location to Liu Ruo-lin’s home almost every morning, then to the main childcare location for lunch, and back to the sleeping location at night.

She said the child stood there when crying; initially she returned after about ten minutes, later leaving him until he became quiet.

She recalled being told not to leave the child standing alone, but said she continued.

She cited head-banging and concern for Liu Ruo-lin after surgery, and said she used a long towel before leaving temporarily.

She framed the acts as protection and improvised restraint, calling the conduct foolish.

She cited persistent nasal discharge, allergy, cold air or dust mites.

She said it was intended to reduce swelling for 15–20 minutes after lunch.

Yes. She said childcare occurred mainly at one location by day and sleeping at another by night.

She maintained separate placements but acknowledged interaction and occasional help from Liu Ruo-lin.

She agreed that separate registrations allowed each caregiver to take two children and increase income.

She eventually described it as a place for standing punishment and acknowledged standing punishment at the sleeping location too.

She first said no, then after a Facebook message was shown said she had forgotten because it was long ago.

She characterised some of them as casual talk or nonsense.

Yes.

She said she feared the neck injury would be discovered, criticism would follow, and future referrals might be affected.

She said a head injury was reported.

Yes, but not from tying the child or placing him in the basin.

She said it was not intentional and resulted from using an adult mask.

No.

She said the child might hit his head when not sleeping, while also saying he was difficult to settle.

Yes.

Early September, she said.